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or whatever. they laid this on harry reid and that's how it all got started. he is -- so i says obama is lying basically is what he is saying, you know. he is dead wrong. the sequester did not start with jack lew. it are started back in 1985 with graham-rudman. >> that's when they first had the sequester for that round of budget cuts. so it's an idea that's been around. yes, as jay carney has pointed out, if there was a meeting with the white house, would the republicans remember who were holding up refuses to do anything about raising the debt ceiling because they said we have to have a lodge-term deficit reduction plan: the president said we will appoint this committee. >> i am having bad flashbacks >> bill: we were this and they said how do we know the super committee is going to do its job and jack lew said i remember something that they did 25 years ago or whatever called a sequester. the republicans said we like that idea. we will hold this giant rock above people's heads that will fall on their heads if they don't do hair job. the republicans e
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